WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.052 The right approach is freedom, freedom of thought, 2 00:00:04.458 --> 00:00:08.599 the firm belief that if a thought takes a direction, 3 00:00:08.934 --> 00:00:13.996 that we consider right, we have to ignore past rules. 4 00:00:14.871 --> 00:00:18.337 This is very difficult to accept, 5 00:00:20.458 --> 00:00:26.286 the main, natural rule that we all follow to live well... 6 00:00:26.775 --> 00:00:31.648 is conformism. We find conformism in medicine, too, 7 00:00:32.474 --> 00:00:35.191 even in research, 8 00:00:35.474 --> 00:00:40.982 which means following the dominant ideas, with little variation. 9 00:00:41.183 --> 00:00:45.413 I think, instead, that we need to leave the common thought. 10 00:00:45.927 --> 00:00:48.863 I am a maverick, 11 00:00:49.125 --> 00:00:52.392 I try to break the rules, whenever possible, 12 00:00:52.636 --> 00:00:56.221 the wrong rules, of course. 13 00:00:56.441 --> 00:01:00.386 Until the 60s, if a woman had breast cancer, 14 00:01:00.650 --> 00:01:05.838 the rule was to radically and completely remove the breast, 15 00:01:08.677 --> 00:01:12.776 together with lymph nodes, followed by radiotherapy, 16 00:01:13.001 --> 00:01:16.957 the arm would become disastrously big. 17 00:01:17.193 --> 00:01:21.131 I rebelled against this massacre. 18 00:01:21.380 --> 00:01:26.341 I developed an idea, a method, a technical ability, 19 00:01:26.561 --> 00:01:32.122 to solve the problems of cancer with a small operation, 20 00:01:32.623 --> 00:01:36.058 leaving the breast intact. 21 00:01:36.281 --> 00:01:40.569 At that time, mastectomy was an untouchable and absolute dogma, 22 00:01:41.965 --> 00:01:45.423 it was scientifically safe, 23 00:01:45.645 --> 00:01:49.091 it was proven that it was necessary. 24 00:01:49.332 --> 00:01:53.733 I dared to suggest a very radical alternative. 25 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:58.018 In the end I succeeded in knocking down that idea, 26 00:01:58.219 --> 00:02:02.463 after some days, thanks to the help of a very smart American, 27 00:02:02.685 --> 00:02:06.867 I obtained a permit, just a permit, 28 00:02:07.082 --> 00:02:11.601 to start a study, a very complex study, 29 00:02:11.968 --> 00:02:15.568 that I continued for 10 years, 30 00:02:15.789 --> 00:02:19.165 comparing women who had a mastectomy, 31 00:02:19.376 --> 00:02:23.204 with those who just had the small operation. 32 00:02:23.433 --> 00:02:27.237 It took me 10 years, I haven't slept for 10 years, 33 00:02:27.452 --> 00:02:31.061 I was terrified I was wrong. But in the end, 10 years later, 34 00:02:31.267 --> 00:02:34.553 we studied the results, and I was right. 35 00:02:34.794 --> 00:02:38.012 It was a difficult period for the country, 36 00:02:38.250 --> 00:02:42.750 the Red Brigades were a significant phenomenon in Italy, 37 00:02:43.021 --> 00:02:47.916 the future could have taken that direction, 38 00:02:48.410 --> 00:02:52.103 and Milan was significantly hit. 39 00:02:52.430 --> 00:02:57.581 They threatened the medical director of the Policlinico hospital, 40 00:03:01.162 --> 00:03:04.501 and then the director of the Niguarda hospital. 41 00:03:04.712 --> 00:03:09.160 One day, I arrived at the hospital and I saw my secretaries crying, 42 00:03:09.418 --> 00:03:12.551 because they had opened a letter, 43 00:03:12.775 --> 00:03:16.232 and referring to me it said: "You are a walking corpse", 44 00:03:16.476 --> 00:03:21.988 with the star of the Red Brigades. It was a clear, meaningful message. 45 00:03:25.179 --> 00:03:28.868 I didn't place much importance on it, 46 00:03:29.096 --> 00:03:32.951 but I started receiving calls from an unknown person, 47 00:03:33.180 --> 00:03:36.724 every night, at 1 am. I had my phone number changed, 48 00:03:36.941 --> 00:03:40.216 but the calls would not stop. I changed it again and it went on. 49 00:03:40.442 --> 00:03:43.983 Then I went to a police commissioner, a friend of mine, 50 00:03:44.195 --> 00:03:48.170 and I explained the situation, he said they couldn't do anything, 51 00:03:48.449 --> 00:03:52.237 a security detail wouldn't make much sense, 52 00:03:52.476 --> 00:03:55.941 and he suggested I changed my routine. 53 00:03:56.180 --> 00:03:59.362 I had to go out at different times, 54 00:03:59.603 --> 00:04:03.901 to go to the hospital every other day, 55 00:04:04.180 --> 00:04:08.549 to sleep somewhere else, at times, in a hotel for instance. 56 00:04:08.791 --> 00:04:12.871 Having a life in which they couldn't take me by surprise, 57 00:04:13.106 --> 00:04:17.186 they couldn't calculate a possible moment to attack. 58 00:04:22.068 --> 00:04:25.989 That's what I did, my life radically changed, 59 00:04:26.190 --> 00:04:30.467 not for a long time, 6 or 8 months, then everything was solved. 60 00:04:30.693 --> 00:04:34.406 I wouldn't say it was fun, but it was interesting, 61 00:04:34.590 --> 00:04:37.667 a sort of mouse and cat game.